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Message 1 in thread
From: DMurrayPA (dmurraypa@aol.com)
Subject: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/08

 

  I being a devoted Gunks junkie would like to know other climbers
favorite classic routes. I am headed to NY in a few weeks and want to hit
the classics. I would appreciate everyones input. Thanks in advance.

     Dave M

Message 2 in thread
From: Eric Coomer (coomer@nuc.berkeley.edu)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/08

 

In article <407tv4$bsg@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
DMurrayPA <dmurraypa@aol.com> wrote:
>  I being a devoted Gunks junkie would like to know other climbers
>favorite classic routes. I am headed to NY in a few weeks and want to hit
>the classics. I would appreciate everyones input. Thanks in advance.
>
>     Dave M

I would cast my vote for MF.  I only climbed in the gunks for about 
one season so I didn't do a *whole* lot of routes and most were in the 
5.5-5.7 range since that was my first year climbing.  But MF was by
far the funnest most exciting route I did there.  It's definitely
5.9 but the pro is great and the moves are wild- two cruxes both
big roofs- classic gunks.  

I have to get back there soon.

eric


Message 3 in thread
From:
Mkword (mkword@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/08

 

Re: favorite Gunks climbs

Dave:

I was a Gunkie for eight years.  Here's a selection:

5.6 

Disneyland, Madame Grunnebraum's Wulst, High Exposure

5.7

Classic, Taste of Honey (incredible), Yellow Ridge, Limelight

5.8

Son of Easy O, Pas des Deux, Modern Times (wild!), Arrow, Annie Oh,
Pilgrim's Progress, Bonnie's Roof, Birdland, Birdie Party (first pitch
only -- has rap-off), Farewell to Arms (rap anchors set up TR for To be Or
Not To Be)

5.9

MF, Jeckyll and Hyde, Ant's Line, The Spring (first pitch), Roseland (a
must!), Commando Rave

5.10  (the premier grade in the Gunks)

Fat City (the best), 10,000 Restless Virgins, Star Action, Coexistence,
Erect Direction, Ringwraith, Wegetables, Tough Shift (scary), Birdie
Party, Transcontinental Railway, Disney Point, Welcome to the Gunks,
Stirrup Trouble, Frustration Syndrome, Mellow Yellow

5.11   (this is when things get real hard!)

Yellow Wall, Reign of Terror, The Sting (close to 12a), No Man's Land,
Shake Your Booty (great Skytop TR or lead), Fissure Ramins, On Any Monday,
No Comment (brilliant climb, can be TRed), Bird Brain (5.11+ can be TRed
after doing Birdland), Persistence

5.12

Bone Hard, To Be or Not To Be (TRable, best face climb in eastern U.S.
imho), Supercrack, Eraserhead, Brave New World, Project X  and many
others.

5.13

Survival of the Fittest (this is 5.13a and is sustained 5.12 climbing --
one of the very finest climbs anywhere.)

Message 4 in thread
From: MplusK (mplusk@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/08

 

CCK-Bonnies roof direct-High E-Shockleys ceiling(nude if yer brave)
klime safe-pack out yer trash, and I swear to GOd I will hunt down and
kill the next person I see flicking a cigarette butt into the
woods......(sorry if yer already low impact)

Message 5 in thread
From: Jeffrey D. Fass (jfass@nyc.pipeline.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/09

 

In article <4081ip$cp4@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, MplusK writes: 
 
>and I swear to GOd I will hunt down and 
>kill the next person I see flicking a cigarette butt into the 
>woods...... 
 
Those bloody butts at the belays as well. All over the place. 
 
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Compuslave 70303,556 
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Message 6 in thread
From: Bruce Bailey (bruceb@roadrunner.denver.sgi.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/09

 

In article <408n4t$jhk@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mkword@aol.com (Mkword)
writes:

|> 
|> 5.11   (this is when things get real hard!)
|> 
|> Yellow Wall, Reign of Terror, The Sting (close to 12a), No Man's Land,
|> Shake Your Booty (great Skytop TR or lead), Fissure Ramins, On Any
|> Monday,
|> No Comment (brilliant climb, can be TRed), Bird Brain (5.11+ can be
|> TRed
|> after doing Birdland), Persistence
|> 
|> 5.12
|> 
|> Bone Hard, To Be or Not To Be (TRable, best face climb in eastern U.S.
|> imho), Supercrack, Eraserhead, Brave New World, Project X  and many
|> others.
|> 

So I guess we're not counting Foops here eh?

Bruce Bailey (Dr. OW)

Message 7 in thread
From: cwills (cwills@bix.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/10

 

DMurrayPA (dmurraypa@aol.com) wrote:
:   I being a devoted Gunks junkie would like to know other climbers
: favorite classic routes. I am headed to NY in a few weeks and want to hit
: the classics. I would appreciate everyones input. Thanks in advance. 
:      Dave M

Three Doves 5.9 
Roseland 5.9
Pas de Deux 5.8
Son of Easy O 5.8
Wegetables 5.10-
Classic 5.7
Arrow 5.8
Ape Call 5.8 -- watch the first pitch, and you can do a *really*
                neat hang by your feet in the overhang!
Transcon 5.10
Disneyland 5.6
Gelsa 5.4
Never Never Land 5.10
-- in fact all of the "Land" climbs
Pick anything on the McCarthy Wall area; MF, Birdie Party,
Coex, Staraction, Try again, etc.
Ring Wraith 5.10-
Drunkards Delight 5.7
Commando Rave 5.9
Simple Suff 5.10-
True Grip 5.11
FOOPS 5.11
No Exit 5.10+
The Spring 5.9
Summer 5.11 (TR) right next to the Spring
Wasp Stop 5.12-

Bonnie's Roof 5.8
Ant's Line 5.9
High Ex. 5.6

Gads I could keep going... :)

Cheyenne

Message 8 in thread
From: Mkword (mkword@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/10

 

Bruce:

Never meant to leave Foops out of the line-up ... sorry!

>>Summer 5.11 (TR) right next to the Spring
>>Wasp Stop 5.12-

Though the book calls The Summer 5.11 ... I have to say it seems a lot
more like 5.12a if you do the direct start..

And Wasp Stop I found to be one of the few Gunks climbs I would return to.
 Basically a very hard one-move John Stannard boulder problem.  When I saw
Mike Freeman finally pull it off after numerous falls, he said two things
--   1.  "Twelve minus my ass!"   2.  "Now I don't ever have to come back
and climb this again."

The Sting is just to the right and is 100X better.  If you are not leading
5.11+ you can climb the first part of Lisa 5.9 (great route in itself) and
then traverse over to the anchors on The Sting to set-up a TR.

Two other great 5.11+-5.12a top-ropes are The Man Who Fell To Earth  ---
and ---- Bullfrog.    Both in the Trapps.

And two more great little 5.10's --- Cheap Thrills (slightly scary 5.10+)
and Turdland (bolt at 5.10 variation).

Message 9 in thread
From: Jeffrey D. Fass (jfass@nyc.pipeline.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/14

 

It probably means nothing, but I've noticed that as people post responses
to this question, the grades go up. 
 
Started out with lovely 5.3's, now people are talking 5.12+'s. 
 
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Thronx from the Bronx 
jfass@pipeline.com (NY) 
Compuslave 70303,556 
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Message 10 in thread
From: PHutchi134 (phutchi134@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/14

 

Up-draft is ONE HELL of a great climb! Nice 5-6 and the crux is at the
near top! It's left of CCK which has a tweekin crux on the 2nd pitch The
only downer to up-draft is the first pitch, only 5-3 5-4 most start up-d
on the cck climb!

Message 11 in thread
From: Ghiz (ghiz@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/16

 

Westward Ha!....The best 5.7 ever.

HMAN

Message 12 in thread
From: Mkword (mkword@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/17

 

>>Westward Ha!....The best 5.7 ever.<<

Westward Ha! is a great climb in a great location.   But ... have you ever
tried Taste of Honey out at Skytop?    I consider that the best 5.7 I've
ever done by far.

First pitch is a nice 5.6 stemming/handjam warmup.  The second pitch is
brilliant.  Move up to enormous tiered roofs then stem and pump along the
upside down corner where the roofs meet the left hand wall.  The crux is
transitioning from the roofs to the wall proper and it's stiff little
move.  Glorious layback moves up the steep wall take you to a bomber
horizontal and the knife-edged arete on the left.  Swing around the arete
(beautifully exposed) and start up the face on the other side.  From there
the moves are 5.5-5.6 but the route forces you to stay right at the very
edge of the sharp arete.  120 feet of air below your right toe.   Move
cautiously past a loose block and you are at the ultra comfortable belay
at the top -- on an alcove/ledge directly above the giant roof system that
under-cuts beneath you.  Give yourself enough room to lean out with your
anchor slings and you can watch your partner follow your path with big
bug-eyes.

:D


Message 13 in thread
From: PHutchi134 (phutchi134@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/19

 

That tale of sky top is good, but last year there was 3 good Mondo Wimpers
taken off of Up-draft, the one at the end of last season almost cost a
wonderful girl from Eng. (Rose) her life, all she ended up losing was most
of her hair which was caught in her ATC. Im telling you UP-Draft is a
blast and I feel is highly UNDER-rated. Hey what the heck, most other
areas for climbing are OVER-rated. Except maybe SENACA.........look out
WV.

Message 14 in thread
From: Dave Nadig (grot@isp.net)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/23

 

OK, it's a tie:

Shockleys: great introduction to roof moves at an easy grade.  
Disneyland: What an awesome belay ledge!  Bucket seats!
High X: Wow.  The exposure move on the last pitch is just to die for.
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Message 15 in thread
From: Mkword (mkword@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/08/28

 

>>Shockleys: great introduction to roof moves at an easy grade. <<

And at the other end of the roof spectrum ... The Yellow Wall!

Schwing! 

Message 16 in thread
From: Michael Wong (wongmike@astro.ocis.temple.edu)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/09/03

 

Mkword (mkword@aol.com) wrote:
: >>Shockleys: great introduction to roof moves at an easy grade. << 
: And at the other end of the roof spectrum ... The Yellow Wall! 
: Schwing! 
CCK and Arrow (moderates at 5.8)


Message 17 in thread
From: Breeze3888 (breeze3888@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/09/06

 

Three Pines, near the guides wall

Message 18 in thread
From: Chris Lesher (lesher_c@wizard.colorado.edu)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/09/08

 

In article <42o636$d98@news1.usa.pipeline.com> rh@usa.pipeline.com(Robert K. Heineman) writes:

>Some of the best classics don't stick to a single line.   
>Gastric Shock 
>   pitch 1 of Gaston (8) 
>   pitch 2 of Strictly from Nowhere (7) 
>   pitch 3 of Shockley's Ceiling (6)

Agreed.  More true in the Gunks than just about anywhere, due to the existence 
of 'the grand traverse ledge'.  All the mention of Modern Times made me think 
of that route... I'd never bother doing the first two pitches of MT or High 
Exposure.  if you can do 5.9 the first pitches of Directissima are so good 
that coupled with the Modern Times roof ya get a three star classic.

Well worth scoping the guidebook pictures and asking around - If a linkup 
looks possible it probably is quite easy in the Gunks.

Chris


Message 19 in thread
From: J Wald (johnw@ksg1.harvard.edu)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/09/11

 

In article <lesher_c.287.000A437E@wizard.colorado.edu>,
lesher_c@wizard.colorado.edu (Chris Lesher) wrote:

> In article <42o636$d98@news1.usa.pipeline.com> rh@usa.pipeline.com(Robert K. Heineman) writes:
> 
> >Some of the best classics don't stick to a single line.   
> >Gastric Shock 
> >   pitch 1 of Gaston (8) 
> >   pitch 2 of Strictly from Nowhere (7) 
> >   pitch 3 of Shockley's Ceiling (6)
> 
> Agreed.  More true in the Gunks than just about anywhere, due to the existence 
> of 'the grand traverse ledge'.  All the mention of Modern Times made me think 
> of that route... I'd never bother doing the first two pitches of MT or High 
> Exposure.  if you can do 5.9 the first pitches of Directissima are so good 
> that coupled with the Modern Times roof ya get a three star classic.
> 
> Well worth scoping the guidebook pictures and asking around - If a linkup 
> looks possible it probably is quite easy in the Gunks.
> 
> Chris


Kascading Krystal Kaleidoscope is also beautiful. 

John

Message 20 in thread
From: Mkword (mkword@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/09/11

 

CCK is great ... especially when you do the
direct version.

Very true about the *link-ups* of different pitches.

Another good link-up is The Nose 5.8 to Fillipina 5.9.

My fave Gunks route of the week --

No Comment 5.11+   A Kevin Bein masterpiece.

Message 21 in thread
From: PEllinwood (pellinwood@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/09/14

 

Spring Route. I did it in 79 and thaught it was great.  I loved getting a
drink before you start.  Plus the first pitch is a great corner and there
did nay seem to be many at the gunks.

Message 22 in thread
From: Mkword (mkword@aol.com)
Subject: Re: The Gunks. What's your favorite classic ?

Date: 1995/09/15

 

The Spring is great.  So are the other routes to
the left of it.

Another fantastic corner is Roseland 5.9.  It's one 
of the best pitches I've ever climbed.

 

 

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